Discussion:
The Shooting of Rep. Giffords and the Left Wing Smear Machine
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∅baMa∅ Tse Dung
2011-01-09 17:44:15 UTC
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When Arizona Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords was shot in the head and
six others were killed Saturday morning by a gunman Jared Loughner,
the left wing smear machine went into high gear. Left wing politicians
blamed the Tea Party (before the gunman was even named), and left wing
hate sites blamed Sarah Palin and Rush Limbaugh for the shooting, when
it was actually done by one of their murderous own. It’s always one of
their own.

Loughner’s leftwing high school friend, Caitie Parker, remembers him
as a “political radical”: “He was left wing,” she wrote; “As I knew
him he was left wing, quite liberal.”

FOX News has reported that the shooter’s favorite books are the
Communist Manifesto and Mein Kampf. Loughner is also reportedly an
atheist. There’s an anti-bible quote in one of his videos: “Every
United States Military recruit at MEPS in Phoenix is receiving one
mini bible before the tests. Jared Loughner is a United States
Military recruit at MEPS in Phoenix. Therefore, Jared Loughner is
receiving one mini bible before the tests.”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/08/jared-lee-loughner-gabrielle-giffords-shooter_n_806243.html

Loughner also has a creepy “music video” up on YouTube, in which he is
dressed as a terrorist and burns an American flag. FOX News has
confirmed that the hooded figure in the video is indeed Loughner.

http://www.youtube.com/user/Starhitshnaz

Also, Congresswoman Giffords is a major Blue Dog Democrat — almost so
right wing that she would be considered a conservative in certain
areas. She was on almost every important issue essentially a
Republican. Her only major left position was support of Obamacare.

But on immigration, she is a blue dog. She supports Second Amendment
gun rights and opposed the ban on guns in Washington, D.C. She is also
a very strong supporter of border control.

The left hates her. The DailyKos put up a post on January 6, which has
now been pulled, saying: “My CongressWOMAN [Gabrielle Giffords] voted
against Nancy Pelosi! And is now DEAD to me!”

This shooting is what they teach, this is the poisonous fruit of their
indoctrination. Clearly, Loughner is sick, mentally ill — but suckling
at the lefty teat is deadly poison for the soul.

Loughner’s mental illness is as obvious as his leftism. He wrote that
“the government is implying mind control and brainwash on the people
by controlling grammar.” He also engaged in some deranged rambling
about whether or not he was a terrorist: “If I define terrorist then a
terrorist is a person who employs terror or terrorism, especially as a
political weapon. I define terrorist. Thus, a terrorist is a person
who employs terror or terrorism, especially as a political weapon. If
you call me a terrorist then the argument to call me a terrorist is Ad
hominem. You call me a terrorist. Thus, the argument to call me a
terrorist is Ad hominem.”

Loughner was busted on a drug related charge; the information
concerning his other arrests is unknown. He did, apparently, issue
death threats — though not directly to Gabrielle Giffords. Still, if
he had a record or case pending, why did he have possession of a Glock
17 9mm pistola? According to the Daily Caller, Loughner had prior run-
ins with the law in the form of at least one arrest, according to two
Public Access documents.

http://dailycaller.com/2011/01/08/alleged-ariz-gunman-jared-loughner-had-prior-run-ins-with-police/#ixzz1AUvXi5T2

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This reminds me of Ishmael Ax, the slaughterer who mowed down scores
at Virginia Tech. He had a psychiatric record — overnight stays in
asylums. How did he get a gun? Big government fails us time and time
again.

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/who_is_ismail_ax/

Despite the evidence of the shooter’s leftwing politics, the leftist
enemedia and culture terrorists are in full assault on the American
psyche, blaming Republicans and our most effetctive leaders, spinning
their bold-faced lies and using this terrible mass murder to destroy
people and the Tea Party.

Hanoi Jane Fonda has blamed the shooting on Sarah Palin and Glenn
Beck. Shame on her and on Arizona State Senator Linda Lopez, who
blamed the Tea Party on FOX news without any basis in concretes or any
knowledge of the identity of the gunman. Shame on Pima County Sheriff
Clarence Dupnik, who said that the shooting was provoked by “the
vitriol that comes out of certain mouths about tearing down the
government.” Shame on the New York Times’ Paul Krugman, who blamed
“the rhetoric of Beck, Limbaugh, etc.”

Even the Daily Kos’s hate post about Giffords didn’t stop Markos
Moulitsas, the site’s founder, from blaming the shooting on “right-
wing rhetoric.”

They would never make such a public presumption about jihad or the
leftists. Outrageous.

I strongly recommend that left wing defamers and smear merchants tamp
down their evil rhetoric and false accusations. They count on the
right to do what is proper and decent and maintain a respectful
silence (which we always do), while they foam at the mouth with
conspiracy theories and outrageous accusations. They expect us to cede
them the field, so that by the time we get around to correcting the
record, the lies, and the smears — the narrative — is already fixed in
America’s psyche.

Those days are over.

http://biggovernment.com/pgeller/2011/01/09/the-shooting-of-rep-giffords-and-the-left-wing-smear-machine/#more-214116

The six dead innocents of the AZ shooting

Michelle Malkin has the grim list of innocent victims who have died as
a result of wounds received during the AZ shootings yesterday.

http://michellemalkin.com/2011/01/09/6-innocents-the-arizona-murder-victims-identified/

Not receiving half the attention accorded to Rep. Giffords, is the
tragic death of federal judge John Roll who, unrelated to the shooting
by the madman Loughner, received numerous death threats for some of
his immigration rulings:

John. M. Roll, the federal judge killed Saturday in the Tucson
shooting that critically wounded Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D-Ariz.),
has been at the center of the state's complicated political battle
over immigration.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/2011/01/slain-federal-judge-john-roll.html

In February 2009, Roll received hundreds of threats after he allowed a
lawsuit filed by illegal immigrants against a rancher to go forward.
"They cursed him out, threatened to kill his family, said they'd come
and take care of him. They really wanted him dead," a law enforcement
official told The Washington Post in May 2009.

Threats against federal judges and prosecutors nationwide have been
soaring in recent years. There is no indication he was the gunman's
target, and witness accounts describe the shooter as firing at
Giffords first.

U.S. marshals put Roll, who was appointed to the federal bench by
President George H.W. Bush in 1991, under 24-hour protection for about
a month. They guarded his home in a secluded area just outside Tucson,
screening his mail and escorting him to court, to the gym and even to
Mass.

Roll told the Post in May 2009 that "any judge who goes through this
knows it's a stressful situation" and that he and his family were
grateful for the protection.

Also killed was a 9 year old girl, Christina Greene. Christina was
born on September 11, 2001:

Greene's family says she was vibrant, excited about life, and she was
the "best daughter in the world."
Born September 11, 2001, Greene was excited about the political
process, was on the student government, and went to the Giffords event
Saturday to learn more about the political process, family members
say.

Greene attended Mesa Verde Elementary School. She was the only girl on
the Canyon Del Oro baseball team. She loved the sport, as well as
horseback riding and swimming. She wanted to be a veterinarian.

As aide to the congresswoman, Gabe Zimmerman, died in the attack as
well:

Zimmerman was remembered by friends and colleagues on Saturday night
as friendly, dedicated and good humored.
He was engaged to be married, according to media reports, and had
served as a major point of contact for the congresswoman since 2007.

Zimmerman, who worked out of the congresswoman's Tucson office, was
known by local interest groups for going above and beyond the call of
duty.

Several photographs on the Internet show Zimmerman, who was a former
social worker, smiling with his arms around local community leaders.

Among them was Pat Gould, a support group leader in the local chapter
of the Scleroderma Foundation. With Zimmerman's help, the group was
able to garner Giffords' support for legislation recognizing the
disease.

Also killed in the attack: Dorthy Murray, 76; Dorwin Stoddard, 76; and
Phyllis Scheck, 79. According to a tweet from ABC's Jake Tapper who is
at the hospital, there are still 4 victims in critical condition and 5
in serious condition. Earlier reports that Giffords woke up and
recognized her husband before falling back into unconciousness were
false.

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2011/01/the_six_dead_innocents_of_the.html

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RHF
2011-01-09 22:27:54 UTC
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On Jan 9, 9:34 am, ∅baMa∅ Tse Dung <***@gmail.com> wrote:
- When Arizona Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords was shot in the head
and
- six others were killed Saturday morning by a gunman Jared Loughner,
- the left wing smear machine went into high gear. Left wing
politicians
- blamed the Tea Party (before the gunman was even named), and left
wing
- hate sites blamed Sarah Palin and Rush Limbaugh for the shooting,
when
- it was actually done by one of their murderous own. It’s always one
of
- their own.
-
- Loughner’s leftwing high school friend, Caitie Parker, remembers him
- as a “political radical”: “He was left wing,” she wrote; “As I knew
- him he was left wing, quite liberal.”
-
- FOX News has reported that the shooter’s favorite books are the
- Communist Manifesto and Mein Kampf. Loughner is also reportedly an
- atheist. There’s an anti-bible quote in one of his videos: “Every
- United States Military recruit at MEPS in Phoenix is receiving one
- mini bible before the tests. Jared Loughner is a United States
- Military recruit at MEPS in Phoenix. Therefore, Jared Loughner is
- receiving one mini bible before the tests.”
-
- http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/08/jared-lee-loughner-gabrielle...

The Shooter was NOT Left-Wing Liberal/Democrat

The Shooter was NOT Right-Wing Conservative/Republican

THE SHOOTER WAS/IS "A CRAZY" :
Who Happen To Lived in Her District.

1st - It was a Local Open Public Event for All to Attend.
2nd - The Shooting Occurred Because At-That-Time &
At-That-Place : "The Shooter" Had The Insane 'Urge'
To Take {Act-Out} His Perceived Vengeance :
* On Society as a Whole {The Crowd of People}
* Society's Leaders {The Local Congressperson}.

The Shooter was an Equal Opportunity Killer : Killing
both Liberals/Democrats and Conservatives/Republicans.
-other-than-'the-leader'-just-shooting-at-any-and-all-

To The Shooter : It Wasn't About His Victims :
* It Was About Him = me,,, Me... ME ! ! !
* His Emotions = me,,, Me... ME ! ! !
* His Pain = me,,, Me... ME ! ! !
* His Anger = me,,, Me... ME ! ! !
-translation- = me,,, Me... ME ! ! !
Against All-of-Society = you,,, You... YOU ! ! !
Against All-In-Power* = them,,, Them... THEM ! ! !
* All-In-Control-of-My-Life = Mind-Control**
** Powerful Evil Forces Against Me {Crazy Ideas}
-result- Feelings of Oppression & Enslavement :
Equal Anger & Hate & Aggression & Violence

To Blame FOX News Is Absurd :

Actually FOX News might have just as easily Calmed
The Shooter Down by it's tone and content.
-relax-you-are-ok-there-are-others-out-there-like-you-

Versus ABC, CBS, NBC, PBS, CNN, MSNBC etc...
might have just as easily Caused The Shooter TO
GET AGITATED & ANGRY by their tone and content.
-hey-you-are-right-you-are-alone-
-and-we-are-all-out-to-get-you-
-we-will-control-your-life-&-we-will-control-your-mind-
=YOU=ARE=OURS=!=

remember : crazies are crazy; and come in all
colors and flavors ~ RHF
.
.
Post by ∅baMa∅ Tse Dung
Loughner also has a creepy “music video” up on YouTube, in which he is
dressed as a terrorist and burns an American flag. FOX News has
confirmed that the hooded figure in the video is indeed Loughner.
http://www.youtube.com/user/Starhitshnaz
Also, Congresswoman Giffords is a major Blue Dog Democrat — almost so
right wing that she would be considered a conservative in certain
areas. She was on almost every important issue essentially a
Republican. Her only major left position was support of Obamacare.
But on immigration, she is a blue dog. She supports Second Amendment
gun rights and opposed the ban on guns in Washington, D.C. She is also
a very strong supporter of border control.
The left hates her. The DailyKos put up a post on January 6, which has
now been pulled, saying: “My CongressWOMAN [Gabrielle Giffords] voted
against Nancy Pelosi! And is now DEAD to me!”
This shooting is what they teach, this is the poisonous fruit of their
indoctrination. Clearly, Loughner is sick, mentally ill — but suckling
at the lefty teat is deadly poison for the soul.
Loughner’s mental illness is as obvious as his leftism. He wrote that
“the government is implying mind control and brainwash on the people
by controlling grammar.” He also engaged in some deranged rambling
about whether or not he was a terrorist: “If I define terrorist then a
terrorist is a person who employs terror or terrorism, especially as a
political weapon. I define terrorist. Thus, a terrorist is a person
who employs terror or terrorism, especially as a political weapon. If
you call me a terrorist then the argument to call me a terrorist is Ad
hominem. You call me a terrorist. Thus, the argument to call me a
terrorist is Ad hominem.”
Loughner was busted on a drug related charge; the information
concerning his other arrests is unknown. He did, apparently, issue
death threats — though not directly to Gabrielle Giffords. Still, if
he had a record or case pending, why did he have possession of a Glock
17 9mm pistola? According to the Daily Caller, Loughner had prior run-
ins with the law in the form of at least one arrest, according to two
Public Access documents.
http://dailycaller.com/2011/01/08/alleged-ariz-gunman-jared-loughner-...
http://dailycaller.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/M-1044.jpg
This reminds me of Ishmael Ax, the slaughterer who mowed down scores
at Virginia Tech. He had a psychiatric record — overnight stays in
asylums. How did he get a gun? Big government fails us time and time
again.
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/who_is_ismail_ax/
Despite the evidence of the shooter’s leftwing politics, the leftist
enemedia and culture terrorists are in full assault on the American
psyche, blaming Republicans and our most effetctive leaders, spinning
their bold-faced lies and using this terrible mass murder to destroy
people and the Tea Party.
Hanoi Jane Fonda has blamed the shooting on Sarah Palin and Glenn
Beck. Shame on her and on Arizona State Senator Linda Lopez, who
blamed the Tea Party on FOX news without any basis in concretes or any
knowledge of the identity of the gunman. Shame on Pima County Sheriff
Clarence Dupnik, who said that the shooting was provoked by “the
vitriol that comes out of certain mouths about tearing down the
government.” Shame on the New York Times’ Paul Krugman, who blamed
“the rhetoric of Beck, Limbaugh, etc.”
Even the Daily Kos’s hate post about Giffords didn’t stop Markos
Moulitsas, the site’s founder, from blaming the shooting on “right-
wing rhetoric.”
They would never make such a public presumption about jihad or the
leftists. Outrageous.
I strongly recommend that left wing defamers and smear merchants tamp
down their evil rhetoric and false accusations. They count on the
right to do what is proper and decent and maintain a respectful
silence (which we always do), while they foam at the mouth with
conspiracy theories and outrageous accusations. They expect us to cede
them the field, so that by the time we get around to correcting the
record, the lies, and the smears — the narrative — is already fixed in
America’s psyche.
Those days are over.
http://biggovernment.com/pgeller/2011/01/09/the-shooting-of-rep-giffo...
The six dead innocents of the AZ shooting
Michelle Malkin has the grim list of innocent victims who have died as
a result of wounds received during the AZ shootings yesterday.
http://michellemalkin.com/2011/01/09/6-innocents-the-arizona-murder-v...
Not receiving half the attention accorded to Rep. Giffords, is the
tragic death of federal judge John Roll who, unrelated to the shooting
by the madman Loughner, received numerous death threats for some of
John. M. Roll, the federal judge killed Saturday in the Tucson
shooting that critically wounded Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D-Ariz.),
has been at the center of the state's complicated political battle
over immigration.
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/2011/01/slain-federal-judge-john-...
In February 2009, Roll received hundreds of threats after he allowed a
lawsuit filed by illegal immigrants against a rancher to go forward.
"They cursed him out, threatened to kill his family, said they'd come
and take care of him. They really wanted him dead," a law enforcement
official told The Washington Post in May 2009.
Threats against federal judges and prosecutors nationwide have been
soaring in recent years. There is no indication he was the gunman's
target, and witness accounts describe the shooter as firing at
Giffords first.
U.S. marshals put Roll, who was appointed to the federal bench by
President George H.W. Bush in 1991, under 24-hour protection for about
a month. They guarded his home in a secluded area just outside Tucson,
screening his mail and escorting him to court, to the gym and even to
Mass.
Roll told the Post in May 2009 that "any judge who goes through this
knows it's a stressful situation" and that he and his family were
grateful for the protection.
Also killed was a 9 year old girl, Christina Greene. Christina was
Greene's family says she was vibrant, excited about life, and she was
the "best daughter in the world."
Born September 11, 2001, Greene was excited about the political
process, was on the student government, and went to the Giffords event
Saturday to learn more about the political process, family members
say.
Greene attended Mesa Verde Elementary School. She was the only girl on
the Canyon Del Oro baseball team. She loved the sport, as well as
horseback riding and swimming. She wanted to be a veterinarian.
As aide to the congresswoman, Gabe Zimmerman, died in the attack as
Zimmerman was remembered by friends and colleagues on Saturday night
as friendly, dedicated and good humored.
He was engaged to be married, according to media reports, and had
served as a major point of contact for the congresswoman since 2007.
Zimmerman, who worked out of the congresswoman's Tucson office, was
known by local interest groups for going above and beyond the call of
duty.
Several photographs on the Internet show Zimmerman, who was a former
social worker, smiling with his arms around local community leaders.
Among them was Pat Gould, a support group leader in the local chapter
of the Scleroderma Foundation. With Zimmerman's help, the group was
able to garner Giffords' support for legislation recognizing the
disease.
Also killed in the attack: Dorthy Murray, 76; Dorwin Stoddard, 76; and
Phyllis Scheck, 79. According to a tweet from ABC's Jake Tapper who is
at the hospital, there are still 4 victims in critical condition and 5
in serious condition. Earlier reports that Giffords woke up and
recognized her husband before falling back into unconciousness were
false.
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2011/01/the_six_dead_innocents_of...
Smashing Pugs
2011-01-09 22:41:30 UTC
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"RHF" <rhf-***@pacbell.net> wrote in message news:b9664b72-2a2c-4ac8-9f36-***@a28g2000prb.googlegroups.com...
On Jan 9, 9:34 am, ?baMa? Tse Dung <***@gmail.com> wrote:
- When Arizona Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords was shot in the head
and
- six others were killed Saturday morning by a gunman Jared Loughner,
- the left wing smear machine went into high gear. Left wing
politicians
- blamed the Tea Party (before the gunman was even named), and left
wing
- hate sites blamed Sarah Palin and Rush Limbaugh for the shooting,
when
- it was actually done by one of their murderous own. It's always one
of
- their own.
-
- Loughner's leftwing high school friend, Caitie Parker, remembers him
- as a "political radical": "He was left wing," she wrote; "As I knew
- him he was left wing, quite liberal."
-
- FOX News has reported that the shooter's favorite books are the
- Communist Manifesto and Mein Kampf. Loughner is also reportedly an
- atheist. There's an anti-bible quote in one of his videos: "Every
- United States Military recruit at MEPS in Phoenix is receiving one
- mini bible before the tests. Jared Loughner is a United States
- Military recruit at MEPS in Phoenix. Therefore, Jared Loughner is
- receiving one mini bible before the tests."
-
- http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/08/jared-lee-loughner-gabrielle...

The Shooter was NOT Left-Wing Liberal/Democrat

The Shooter was NOT Right-Wing Conservative/Republican

THE SHOOTER WAS/IS "A CRAZY" :
Who Happen To Lived in Her District.
===================================================

You ignore FOX's ties to the Dr. Tiller murder? Sarah Palin putting targets
on Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords picture?
RHF
2011-01-09 23:42:04 UTC
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Post by RHF
- When Arizona Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords was shot in the head
and
- six others were killed Saturday morning by a gunman Jared Loughner,
- the left wing smear machine went into high gear. Left wing
politicians
- blamed the Tea Party (before the gunman was even named), and left
wing
- hate sites blamed Sarah Palin and Rush Limbaugh for the shooting,
when
- it was actually done by one of their murderous own. It's always one
of
- their own.
-
- Loughner's leftwing high school friend, Caitie Parker, remembers him
- as a "political radical": "He was left wing," she wrote; "As I knew
- him he was left wing, quite liberal."
-
- FOX News has reported that the shooter's favorite books are the
- Communist Manifesto and Mein Kampf. Loughner is also reportedly an
- atheist. There's an anti-bible quote in one of his videos: "Every
- United States Military recruit at MEPS in Phoenix is receiving one
- mini bible before the tests. Jared Loughner is a United States
- Military recruit at MEPS in Phoenix. Therefore, Jared Loughner is
- receiving one mini bible before the tests."
-
-http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/08/jared-lee-loughner-gabrielle...
- The Shooter was NOT Left-Wing Liberal/Democrat
-
- The Shooter was NOT Right-Wing Conservative/Republican
-
- THE SHOOTER WAS/IS "A CRAZY" :
- Who Happen To Lived in Her District.
- ===================================================
-
- You ignore FOX's ties to the Dr. Tiller murder?  

Prove It : Show Where FOX News
* Target Dr. Tiller To Be Killed -not-
* Said That Dr. Tiller Should Be Killed -not-
* Asked For The Killing of Dr. Tiller -not-
-warning-caution- IT IS YOU WHO IS HERE & NOW
INCITING VIOLENCE AGAINST SARAH PALIN !
-the-fact-you-use-a-violent-screen-id-
"Smashing Pugs" {Attaching Republicans -or- Even
Worse Actually 'Smashing' Cute Little "Pug" Dogs
Loading Image...
-shows-your-violent-nature-&-intent-
Maybe... It Is You Who Needs To Be Secured In A Jail Cell
Next To "The Crazy" AZ Shooter For The Public Safety !

- Sarah Palin putting targets on Congresswoman
- Gabrielle Giffords picture?

That's a Stupid Assurtion When In-Fact both
the "NO" Sign was used -as-in- 'Say-No-To'
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along with the "Bulls-Eye" {Target} Sign
Loading Image...
-as-in- to 'Target-for-Defeat' at the Election Polls :
Through Peaceful Election -not- Assassination !
-warning-caution- IT IS YOU WHO IS HERE & NOW
INCITING VIOLENCE AGAINST SARAH PALIN !
-the-fact-you-use-a-violent-screen-id-
"Smashing Pugs" {Attaching Republicans -or- Even
Worse Actually 'Smashing' Cute Little "Pug" Dogs
http://dogbreedswiki.com/images/dogst/Pug1.jpg
-shows-your-violent-nature-&-intent-
Maybe... It Is You Who Needs To Be Secured In A Jail Cell
Next To "The Crazy" AZ Shooter For The Public Safety !

WHILE YOU IGNORE THE AZ SHOOTER IS A CRAZY [.]
NOT Left-Wing Liberal/Democrat
NOT Right-Wing Conservative/Republican
THE AZ SHOOTER WAS-&-IS "A CRAZY" !
.
Jared Lee Loughner : The AZ Shooter Was/Is A CRAZY [.]
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/4e7001ab3e470009
Left-Wing Liberal-Democrats : Targeting Sarah Palin !
Using The Shooting of Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords
To Incite Violence Against Sarah Palin !
.
The Shooting of Rep. Giffords and the Left Wing Smear Machine
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/89b47e0bc2b8c27c
Left-Wing Liberal-Democrats : Targeting Sarah Palin !
Using The Shooting of Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords
To Incite Violence Against Sarah Palin !
.
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Gary
2011-01-10 10:08:27 UTC
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I see everyone here is following their marching orders from Judson
Phillips, founder of the Tea Party Nation.

Phillips has sent out mass emails urging the Tea Party supporters to
blame liberals for the attack.

"The hard left is going to try and silence the Tea Party movement by
blaming us for this. Clinton used the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing to
"blame conservative talk radio, especially Rush Limbaugh" and The
tactic worked then, backing conservatives off and possibly helping to
ensure a second Clinton term. The left is coming and will hit us hard
on this. We need to push back harder with the simple truth. The
shooter was a liberal lunatic. Emphasis on both words."
D. Peter Maus
2011-01-10 12:53:51 UTC
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Post by Gary
I see everyone here is following their marching orders from Judson
Phillips, founder of the Tea Party Nation.
Phillips has sent out mass emails urging the Tea Party supporters to
blame liberals for the attack.
"The hard left is going to try and silence the Tea Party movement by
blaming us for this. Clinton used the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing to
"blame conservative talk radio, especially Rush Limbaugh" and The
tactic worked then, backing conservatives off and possibly helping to
ensure a second Clinton term. The left is coming and will hit us hard
on this. We need to push back harder with the simple truth. The
shooter was a liberal lunatic. Emphasis on both words."
And the facts have proven him correct.
RHF
2011-01-10 13:28:48 UTC
Permalink
I see everyone here is following their marching orders from  Judson
Phillips, founder of the Tea Party Nation.
Phillips has sent out mass emails urging the Tea Party supporters to
blame liberals for the attack.
"The hard left is going to try and silence the Tea Party movement by
blaming us for this. Clinton used the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing to
"blame conservative talk radio, especially Rush Limbaugh" and The
tactic worked then, backing conservatives off and possibly helping to
ensure a second Clinton term. The left is coming and will hit us hard
on this. We need to push back harder with the simple truth.
- - The shooter was a liberal lunatic.
- - Emphasis on both words."

- And the facts have proven him correct.

Another Inconvenient Truth of Sorts : Lunatic For Sure [.]
The Shooter Was A CRAZY LUNATIC WACKO MANIAC
-emphasis-on-all-four-capitalized-words-

=FIRST=A=FEW=MOMENTS=OF=PRAYER=

* Let Us All Pray for the Best Possible Recovery
for Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords
-and- God's Comfort, Mercy and Blessing to her
Family, Friends and Staff - Amen ~ RHF

* Let Us All Pray for the Best Possible Recovery
for All Those Who Were Injured
-and- God's Comfort, Mercy and Blessing to Their
Families and Many Friends - Amen ~ RHF

* Let Us All Pray for All Dead; Their Souls and
Their Acceptance Into Heaven and Eternal Rest
-and- God's Comfort, Mercy and Blessing to Their
Families and Many Friends on the Lost of Their
Loved Ones - Amen ~ RHF
.
Left-Wing Liberal-Democrats :
Using The Shooting of Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords
To Incite Violence Against "Right-Wing Demagogues" !
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/32664340f7a712fa
.
Talking About "The AZ Shooting" Right Now
on THE POWER HOUR Radio Show
-with-host- Joyce Riley @ 1300 UTC on
http://www.thepowerhour.com/
http://www.gcnlive.com/programs/powerHour/
WWCR Shortwave Radio in Nashville, TN -USA-
http://www.wwcr.com/
-or- To Listen "Live" to GCN On-Line
-via- the Internet [WWW]
http://www.gcnlive.com/mediaPlayers/livePlayer.php
.
It's Time for "The Power Hour" with Joyce Riley
-via- WWCR Shortwave Radio
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/bd719241c5864967
.
.
RHF
2011-01-10 13:40:08 UTC
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Talking About "The AZ Shooting" Right Now
on THE POWER HOUR Radio Show
-with-host- Joyce Riley @ 1300 UTC
on 7,490 kHz and 13,845 kHz
http://www.thepowerhour.com/
http://www.gcnlive.com/programs/powerHour/
WWCR Shortwave Radio in Nashville, TN -USA-
http://www.wwcr.com/
.
Coming-Up-Now is George Freund from Canada
Talking About "The AZ Shooting" Too !
* The "Conspiracy Cafe" -host- George Freund
http://www.thatchannel.com/conspiracycafe
* The "Conspiracy Cafe" -host- George Freund
http://thatradio.podhoster.com/index.php?sid=1746
* The "Conspiracy Cafe" -host- George Freund
http://thatradio.podhoster.com/rss/1746/
.
-or- To Listen "Live" to GCN On-Line
-via- the Internet [WWW]
http://www.gcnlive.com/mediaPlayers/livePlayer.php
.
It's Time for "The Power Hour" with Joyce Riley
-via- WWCR Shortwave Radio
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/bd719241c5864967
.
.
Post by RHF
I see everyone here is following their marching orders from  Judson
Phillips, founder of the Tea Party Nation.
Phillips has sent out mass emails urging the Tea Party supporters to
blame liberals for the attack.
"The hard left is going to try and silence the Tea Party movement by
blaming us for this. Clinton used the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing to
"blame conservative talk radio, especially Rush Limbaugh" and The
tactic worked then, backing conservatives off and possibly helping to
ensure a second Clinton term. The left is coming and will hit us hard
on this. We need to push back harder with the simple truth.
- - The shooter was a liberal lunatic.
- - Emphasis on both words."
- And the facts have proven him correct.
Another Inconvenient Truth of Sorts : Lunatic For Sure [.]
The Shooter Was A CRAZY LUNATIC WACKO MANIAC
-emphasis-on-all-four-capitalized-words-
=FIRST=A=FEW=MOMENTS=OF=PRAYER=
* Let Us All Pray for the Best Possible Recovery
for Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords
-and- God's Comfort, Mercy and Blessing to her
Family, Friends and Staff - Amen ~ RHF
* Let Us All Pray for the Best Possible Recovery
for All Those Who Were Injured
-and- God's Comfort, Mercy and Blessing to Their
Families and Many Friends - Amen ~ RHF
* Let Us All Pray for All Dead; Their Souls and
Their Acceptance Into Heaven and Eternal Rest
-and- God's Comfort, Mercy and Blessing to Their
Families and Many Friends on the Lost of Their
Loved Ones - Amen ~ RHF
 .
Using The Shooting of Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords
To Incite Violence Against "Right-Wing Demagogues" !http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/32664340f7a712fa
 .
Talking About "The AZ Shooting" Right Now
on THE POWER HOUR Radio Show
WWCR Shortwave Radio in Nashville, TN -USA-http://www.wwcr.com/
-or- To Listen "Live" to GCN On-Line
-via- the Internet [WWW]http://www.gcnlive.com/mediaPlayers/livePlayer.php
 .
It's Time for "The Power Hour" with Joyce Riley
-via- WWCR Shortwave Radiohttp://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/bd719241c5864967
 .
 .
dave
2011-01-10 14:31:54 UTC
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Post by RHF
Talking About "The AZ Shooting" Right Now
on THE POWER HOUR Radio Show
on 7,490 kHz and 13,845 kHz
http://www.gcnlive.com/Listen_Live.html
RHF
2011-01-11 03:40:35 UTC
Permalink
On Jan 10, 5:48 pm, ***@webtv.net wrote:
- BRACE YOURSELFS:
- democrat Fred Phelps
- and Westboro Hate Group announce plans to picket
- 9 year-old shooting victim Christina Greene’s funeral.
- http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=301276

Let Us All Pray for Christina Greene; Her Soul
and Her Acceptance Into Heaven and Eternal Rest
-and- God's Comfort, Mercy and Blessing to Her
Family and Friends on the Lost of Their Loved One
-and-we-all-say- Amen ~ RHF

- How LOW can they Go?
-
- What Top Shrink said about democrats and liberals.
- cuhulin

Cuhulin : It Ain't Democrats and Liberals -or- those
who might falsely call themselves by those labels.
Nuts Are Nuts -because- Nuts Are NUTS !
= One-Insane-Act-of-Violence {Separates Them} =
Crazy Is Crazy -because- Crazy Is CRAZY !

*WRT* Fred Phelps and his so-called Westboro Baptist Church* (WBC)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Phelps
* NOT Affiliated with any real Baptist Church.

Is this guy truly a 'democrat' -or- Just A Plain NUT !
http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=301276
Is this guy truly a 'christian' -or- Just A Plain NUT !

QUESTION : What Separates 'Just A Plain NUT
-from- A Real CRAZY : One Insane Act of Violence [.]
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/cd9ae9aa17f4318c

Is His Westboro 'church' group 'chrisitans' -or- Just a
Group of Misguided People -that-is- Lead By A Plain NUT !
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/c5a035d8aa7c380d

What Separates Fred Phelps -from- Jared Loughner ?
One Appears To Be NUT & One Appears To Be CRAZY
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/11fe70fe78f346bc
The Difference : One Insane Act of Violence [.]

MEDICAL CHECK-UP ASAP ON THE AZ SHOOTER
Do A Full 'Brain Scan' -cause- Maybe This Crazy
Is Caused By A "Tumor" a/o Brain-Damage :
A Real Physical Illness -not- a Mental Illness.
-now-wouldn't-that-explain-a-lot-

? WHY WHY WHY DID THE AZ SHOOTING HAPPEN ?
Jared Lee Loughner The AZ Shooter Was/Is A CRAZY [.]
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/4e7001ab3e470009
He Ain't Right-or-Left : He's Just Plain CRAZY [.]
FIRST - Don't Blame The Conservatives/Republicans
-and- Second Don't Blame The Liberals/Democrats
-cause- The Root-Cause Is Not Political
The Root-Cause Is Mental Health and Public Safety
BLAME A SOCIETY THAT DID NOT HELP HIM :
* Blame a Public School System That Did Not
Identify His Needs [.]
* Blame a Public Health Care System That Did
Not Help Him and Treat His Illness [.]
* Blame a Public Safety {Police} System That
Did Not Help Him and Protect Us From Him [.]
=WRT= The AZ Shooter Society's Failures Were
Not Political : They Were In The Public Schools;
Public Health Care; and Public Safety.
.
IMHO : The AZ Shooting Was One Insane Act of Violence ~ RHF©
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/32664340f7a712fa
= The 'Why' Of It -and- Affixing The Blame = ~ RHF©
.
.
dave
2011-01-10 14:30:24 UTC
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Post by RHF
Another Inconvenient Truth of Sorts : Lunatic For Sure [.]
The Shooter Was A CRAZY LUNATIC WACKO MANIAC
-emphasis-on-all-four-capitalized-words-
Just like Sirhan and Lee Oswald and Artie Bremer and Chapman and Jack
Ruby and James Earl Ray and so on.

All "lone nuts" without visible means of support who end up in the right
state of mind at the right place with the right weapons to do maximum
damage to someone who threatens a corporate goal or represents an ideal
that threatens the existing power structure.
a***@webtv.net
2011-01-11 04:03:01 UTC
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Post by dave
Post by RHF
Another Inconvenient Truth of Sorts : Lunatic For Sure [.]
The Shooter Was A CRAZY LUNATIC WACKO MANIAC
-emphasis-on-all-four-capitalized-words-
Just like Sirhan and Lee Oswald and Artie Bremer and Chapman and Jack
Ruby and James Earl Ray and so on.
All "lone nuts" without visible means of support who end up in the right
state of mind at the right place with the right weapons to do maximum
damage to someone who threatens a corporate goal or represents an ideal
that threatens the existing power structure.
Can't disagree with any of the above.When you are right,you are RIGHT !
dave
2011-01-11 12:54:02 UTC
Permalink
Post by a***@webtv.net
Post by dave
All "lone nuts" without visible means of support who end up in the right
state of mind at the right place with the right weapons to do maximum
damage to someone who threatens a corporate goal or represents an ideal
that threatens the existing power structure.
Can't disagree with any of the above.When you are right,you are RIGHT !
And these hatemongers say "there's no evidence" that this guy was
influenced by the toxic culture they have created. He did not live in a
vacuum; how could he miss it?

When I go to Austin or Houston, I try not to stop anywhere in Arizona,
(once for gas in Quartzite). I bypass Phoenix completely.

There is palpable lunatic hate out there. If you live in a sane place
like Los Angeles, with opposing viewpoints fairly represented in the
media, and visit a place like Arizona or West Texas, the fear and hate
is palatable. If all you listen to in a day is Limbaugh, Hannity, Levin,
and Savage, you are psychotic. Either strengthen the gun laws or bring
back diversity of opinion on the public airwaves.
Joe from Kokomo
2011-01-11 13:14:14 UTC
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Post by dave
When I go to Austin or Houston, I try not to stop anywhere in
Arizona...
There is palpable lunatic hate out there.
Arizona...the state that brought you racist Sharon Angle and governor
Jan Brewer with her real-life, literal, actual death panel.

Heck of a job, Jan.
RHF
2011-01-11 14:50:12 UTC
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Post by dave
When I go to Austin or Houston, I try not to stop anywhere in
Arizona...
There is palpable lunatic hate out there.
- Arizona...the state that brought you racist
- Sharon Angle and governor Jan Brewer with
- her real-life, literal, actual death panel.
-
- Heck of a job, Jan.

Heck of a Job ! Joe-from-Kokomo...

In 'connecting' Names and Places :
You are Only 50/50 = a D+ at best.

try again... as they say there is room
for improvement ;;-}} ~ RHF
.
.
'Special-Dave' -preaching- Palpable Lunatic Hate
& Creating The Toxic Culture
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/35234e3f86f2c974
.
Known Facts -Not- Opinions -About-
"Jared Lee Loughner" The AZ Shooter
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/fcb15c3503f2482d
.
The AZ Shooting : ? Why Not First Think of
The Innocent Victims of This Crime . . .
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/91e4864cd52cfcb7
.
.
John Smith
2011-01-11 15:02:07 UTC
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Post by RHF
...
The AZ Shooting : ? Why Not First Think of
The Innocent Victims of This Crime . . .
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/91e4864cd52cfcb7
.
.
I really can't say I am that sorry for them.

If the "victims" had taken the responsibility for their own lives, had a
gun in their pocket, and shot the idiot when he produced his and started
blasting away, there would have been a LOT FEWER "victims."

If the "victims" want to trust others to protect their lives, they, most
likely, will have those lives taken by the first determined person who
wants the lives.

If you want to be safe, take responsibility for yourself -- otherwise,
don't start crying about being unsafe, or about others being unsafe who
are not taking responsibility!

But, if you are that kind of an idiot, "Would you like me to protect
your money for you to?" HEHEHEHEHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

Regards,
JS
dave
2011-01-11 14:58:02 UTC
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Post by Joe from Kokomo
Post by dave
When I go to Austin or Houston, I try not to stop anywhere in
Arizona...
There is palpable lunatic hate out there.
Arizona...the state that brought you racist Sharon Angle and governor
Jan Brewer with her real-life, literal, actual death panel.
Heck of a job, Jan.
I bet she appoints a Republican to finish Rep. Gifford's term.
Brenda Ann
2011-01-11 21:16:47 UTC
Permalink
Post by Joe from Kokomo
Post by dave
When I go to Austin or Houston, I try not to stop anywhere in
Arizona...
There is palpable lunatic hate out there.
Arizona...the state that brought you racist Sharon Angle and governor
Jan Brewer with her real-life, literal, actual death panel.
Heck of a job, Jan.
I bet she appoints a Republican to finish Rep. Gifford's term.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

1) Sharon Angle is from Nevada

2) I think Rep. Giffords may well have something to say as to whether she
will be replaced.
RHF
2011-01-12 10:41:47 UTC
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Post by Brenda Ann
Post by Joe from Kokomo
Post by dave
When I go to Austin or Houston, I try not to stop anywhere in
Arizona...
There is palpable lunatic hate out there.
Arizona...the state that brought you racist Sharon Angle and governor
Jan Brewer with her real-life, literal, actual death panel.
Heck of a job, Jan.
- I bet she appoints a Republican to finish Rep. Gifford's term.

Do you know actually anything about Congresswoman
Gabrielle Giffords :
http://www.nndb.com/people/032/000122663/
Her Politics beyond the Label "Democrat"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giffords#Political_career
* Member of the Blue Dog Coalition {Moderate/Conservative}
* Member of the 'New' Democrat Coalition
Her Political Positions beyond the Label "Democrat"
* Voted in Favor Embryonic Stem-Cell Research
* Voted in Favor Raising the Minimum Wage
* Favors Renewable Energy Subsidies
* Favors Strategic Renewable Energy Reserve
* Favors Securing the US-Mexico Border
* Supports Gun Rights
+ Giffords Voted Against Pelosi for Democrat Leader in 2011

Oops- J-f-K here is another inconvenient truth : Giffords
is Still Alive; and not declared Medically Incapacitated
-so- How's She Going To Replaced ?
-ain't-no-provision-for-'substitute'-us-reps-

Plus I think that AZ Governor Jan Brewer is 'smart'
enough to call for a "Special Election" -if- Giffords'
Husband does not want the Job.

-obtw- Giffords is of Jewish Ancestry
-but- so apparently is Loughner
http://beforeitsnews.com/story/350/862/Is_Loughner_Jewish.html
-and- It appears that both families at times attended
the same Reform Synagogue 'Congregation Chaverim'
.
Post by Brenda Ann
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--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
- 1) Sharon Angle is from Nevada

BAD Hey You Got That Right :o)
-while- J-f-K's Rhetoric+Vitriol+Hate got in the way
of the simple Facts and basic Truth.
-ps- J-f-K you are better than that . . .
even 'if' you are arguing with a putz like me

Sharon Angle born in Oregon and mostly has been a
life long Nevadian.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharon_Angle#Personal_life

- 2) I think Rep. Giffords may well have something
- to say as to whether she will be replaced.

Let's Pray She Does - amen ~ RHF
.
.
Joe from Kokomo
2011-01-12 13:51:24 UTC
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Post by RHF
- I bet she appoints a Republican to finish Rep. Gifford's term.
The above statement was written by dave, not JfK
Post by RHF
Oops- J-f-K here is another inconvenient truth : Giffords
is Still Alive; and not declared Medically Incapacitated
-so- How's She Going To Replaced ?
-ain't-no-provision-for-'substitute'-us-reps-
Huh?

a) -I- never said she was dead nor did I address her being replaced.

b) But seeing as -you- brought up the subject of replacement, she may or
may not have been "officially" declared 'medically incapacitated', but
with being in critical condition with a hole in her brain, it should be
intuitively obvious she won't be returning to work any time soon.
dave
2011-01-12 15:59:33 UTC
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Post by Joe from Kokomo
Post by RHF
- I bet she appoints a Republican to finish Rep. Gifford's term.
The above statement was written by dave, not JfK
Post by RHF
Oops- J-f-K here is another inconvenient truth : Giffords
is Still Alive; and not declared Medically Incapacitated
-so- How's She Going To Replaced ?
-ain't-no-provision-for-'substitute'-us-reps-
Huh?
a) -I- never said she was dead nor did I address her being replaced.
b) But seeing as -you- brought up the subject of replacement, she may or
may not have been "officially" declared 'medically incapacitated', but
with being in critical condition with a hole in her brain, it should be
intuitively obvious she won't be returning to work any time soon.
The top of her skull is in a freezer.
RHF
2011-01-12 17:07:46 UTC
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Post by Joe from Kokomo
Post by RHF
- I bet she appoints a Republican to finish Rep. Gifford's term.
The above statement was written by dave, not JfK
Post by RHF
Oops- J-f-K here is another inconvenient truth : Giffords
is Still Alive; and not declared Medically Incapacitated
  -so- How's She Going To Replaced ?
-ain't-no-provision-for-'substitute'-us-reps-
Huh?
a) -I- never said she was dead nor did I address her being replaced.
b) But seeing as -you- brought up the subject of replacement, she may or
may not have been "officially" declared 'medically incapacitated', but
with being in critical condition with a hole in her brain, it should be
intuitively obvious she won't be returning to work any time soon.
"-ain't-no-provision-for-'substitute'-us-reps-"
=WRT= Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords :
Ain't No Provision for 'Substitute' US Representatives

? What's The Process !

Can She Her Self 'Resign' ?
-not- in her present Medical Condition.

Can Her Husband Be Appointed Her Legal
Guardian by the Court -and- Resign For Her ?

Can The US House "Remove Her" For Medical
Reasons ? -and- Is That In The US House Rules ?

Until one of those happens : She Remains the
Elected Office "Holder" and The People of the
Arizona 8th US House District go un-represented
for now.

"-ain't-no-provision-for-'substitute'-us-reps-"
=WRT= Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords :
Ain't No Provision for 'Substitute' US Representatives

IMHO -There Should Be A Provision For The
US House To Have A Finding of 'Temporary'
Medical Disability Ruling and Elevate The
Representative's 'Chief-of-Staff' to the Position
of "Substitute-Representative" for 90~180 Days.
Thus Enabling the Citizens of the District to
Have an Active Voice {Vote} in the US House.

-again- The Alternative Is To Have The Elected
Office 'Occupied' -but- Not "Functioning" For
and On Behalf of the Citizens of the District
for possibly many months... a year...

Seems like a good Issue to be Studied and
Resolved by the Leadership of the US House
and it's Members -in-the-near-future- ~ RHF
.
.
John Smith
2011-01-12 17:17:23 UTC
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Post by RHF
...
Can Her Husband Be Appointed Her Legal
Guardian by the Court -and- Resign For Her ?
...
I certainly HOPE NOT, we have no rule by royalty in this country. The
king can't assume the "queens'" duties ... we simply have no "queens."

Whatever transpires in the interim, a special election will need to be
held to elect someone to fill her office. However, whether she is brain
dead or not, do you really think anyone will notice a difference? I
mean, other than her family and friends?

Haven't all politicians only been reduced to bad jokes? Since they have
stopped representing the will of the majority, what credibility should
they be granted? NONE, in my book ...

Regards,
JS
D Peter Maus
2011-01-12 17:52:01 UTC
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Post by RHF
...
Can Her Husband Be Appointed Her Legal
Guardian by the Court -and- Resign For Her ?
...
I certainly HOPE NOT, we have no rule by royalty in this country. The
king can't assume the "queens'" duties ... we simply have no "queens."
Actually, that's happened in a number of states, now.
Whatever transpires in the interim, a special election will need to be
held to elect someone to fill her office. However, whether she is brain
dead or not, do you really think anyone will notice a difference? I
mean, other than her family and friends?
Haven't all politicians only been reduced to bad jokes? Since they have
stopped representing the will of the majority, what credibility should
they be granted? NONE, in my book ...
Regards,
JS
John Smith
2011-01-12 18:00:11 UTC
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Post by D Peter Maus
...
Actually, that's happened in a number of states, now.
...
That is why I stated, "... I hope not ..."

You are correct, there is much criminal and un-Constitutional which has
been allowed to happen. Now is the time for people to accept the
responsibility of government, which is theirs, and let the public
servants know they are not their to do their puppet masters bidding, nor
even their own bidding ...

Regards,
JS
RHF
2011-01-12 19:12:13 UTC
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Post by RHF
...
Can Her Husband Be Appointed Her Legal
Guardian by the Court -and- Resign For Her ?
...
I certainly HOPE NOT, we have no rule by royalty in this country. The
king can't assume the "queens'" duties ... we simply have no "queens."
   Actually, that's happened in a number of states, now.
Whatever transpires in the interim, a special election will need to be
held to elect someone to fill her office. However, whether she is brain
dead or not, do you really think anyone will notice a difference? I
mean, other than her family and friends?
Haven't all politicians only been reduced to bad jokes? Since they have
stopped representing the will of the majority, what credibility should
they be granted? NONE, in my book ...
Regards,
JS
JS,

The normal Legal Process in just about every
US State for someone who can not Think for
Themselves {Brain Damage} or can not Care
for Themselves {Disabled} is for the Courts to
Appoint the Spouse, Children, Sibling, Parent
{A Family Member} as the Guardian of First
Choice if possible.

-if-not- Then the Court will Appointed Guardian
a/o Conservator to Act-For and On-Behalf-Of
the Totally Disabled.

That's What Our Society's Social Service Rules
and Regulations Require and Our Laws Mandate.

Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords :
Ain't No Provision for 'Substitute' US Representatives
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/dce7194d54d61f29
Seems like a good Issue to be Studied and
Resolved by the Leadership of the US House
and it's Members -in-the-near-future- ~ RHF
.
.
dave
2011-01-13 00:18:42 UTC
Permalink
Post by RHF
- I bet she appoints a Republican to finish Rep. Gifford's term.
.
Jim Brady
China Blue Ribbon
2011-01-13 05:54:53 UTC
Permalink
Post by dave
Post by RHF
- I bet she appoints a Republican to finish Rep. Gifford's term.
.
Jim Brady
She holds the office for the term until death or resignation. In either of those
cases the district goes unrepresented until a new representative is elected for
the remainder of the term.
--
Damn the living - It's a lovely life. I'm whoever you want me to be.
Silver silverware - Where is the love? At least I can stay in character.
Oval swimming pool - Where is the love? Annoying Usenet one post at a time.
Damn the living - It's a lovely life. You like me! You really like me!
dave
2011-01-12 15:57:18 UTC
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Post by RHF
Post by Joe from Kokomo
Post by dave
When I go to Austin or Houston, I try not to stop anywhere in
Arizona...
There is palpable lunatic hate out there.
Arizona...the state that brought you racist Sharon Angle and governor
Jan Brewer with her real-life, literal, actual death panel.
Heck of a job, Jan.
- I bet she appoints a Republican to finish Rep. Gifford's term.
Do you know actually anything about Congresswoman
I know she won't be reading any House Resolutions for the next few
months. She is incapacitated and not capable of performing normal duties
as a US Representative.
John Smith
2011-01-12 16:33:06 UTC
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Post by dave
...
I know she won't be reading any House Resolutions for the next few
months. She is incapacitated and not capable of performing normal duties
as a US Representative.
I doubt we shall even notice a change, if/when she resumes her duties.

Most in congress are just a bunch of brain-dead-criminal-puppets ...
their puppet masters like them that way, easier to control the strings,
yanno'?

Regards,
JS
D Peter Maus
2011-01-12 17:51:14 UTC
Permalink
Post by John Smith
Post by dave
...
I know she won't be reading any House Resolutions for the next few
months. She is incapacitated and not capable of performing normal duties
as a US Representative.
I doubt we shall even notice a change, if/when she resumes her duties.
Most in congress are just a bunch of brain-dead-criminal-puppets ...
their puppet masters like them that way, easier to control the strings,
yanno'?
Regards,
JS
That was a bit over the top, John.
John Smith
2011-01-12 17:54:17 UTC
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Post by D Peter Maus
...
That was a bit over the top, John.
Really? Then perhaps I had better contact a shrink for consultation ...
as it sure seems like that to me.

For example: Over the past decades I have seen republicrats and
democans come and go, and replace each other, and change the party of
office ... one thing has been consistent through it all ... the plans of
the shadow government. Become aware, sit back and watch ... see if you
don't begin to notice it ...

Regards,
JS
Bert Hyman
2011-01-11 21:29:38 UTC
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Post by Joe from Kokomo
Post by dave
When I go to Austin or Houston, I try not to stop anywhere in
Arizona...
There is palpable lunatic hate out there.
Arizona...the state that brought you racist Sharon Angle and governor
Jan Brewer with her real-life, literal, actual death panel.
And ex-Governor Janet Napolitano, now the US Secretary of Homeland
Security.
--
Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN ***@iphouse.com
RHF
2011-01-11 14:35:39 UTC
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Post by a***@webtv.net
Post by dave
All "lone nuts" without visible means of support who end up in the right
state of mind at the right place with the right weapons to do maximum
damage to someone who threatens a corporate goal or represents an ideal
that threatens the existing power structure.
Can't disagree with any of the above.When you are right,you are RIGHT !
- And these hatemongers say "there's no evidence"
- that this guy was influenced by the toxic culture
- they have created.

'Special-Dave' : Clearly You Have Been.
-keep-the-toxic-culture-regurgitation-going-
.
- He did not live in a vacuum; how could he miss it?

'Special-Dave' : Clearly You Did Not.
.
- When I go to Austin or Houston,
- I try not to stop anywhere in Arizona,
- (once for gas in Quartzite).
- I bypass Phoenix completely.

'Special-Dave' : I am sure that the Good People
of AZ appreciate your concern for their Safety
-from-you-
.
- There is palpable lunatic hate out there.

'Special-Dave' : Clearly Your Post Shows That.
-keep-the-palpable-lunatic-hate-coming-
.
- If you live in a sane place like Los Angeles,

'Special-Dave' : Now "Sane Place" Is Most Debatable.
-is-any-metro-complex-a-sane-place-
.
- with opposing viewpoints fairly represented in the media,

'Special-Dave' : Now "Fairly" Is Most Debatable.
-is-any-metro-complex-a-fair-place-
.
- and visit a place like Arizona or West Texas,
- the fear and hate is palatable.

'Special-Dave' : Sound Like You Have 'Arizona' Psychosis
coupled with West Texas Psychosis and may be . . .
You 'Special-Dave' Are "Hate-Mongering" !
-get-medical-help-dave-:-medical-marijuana-ain't-working-

*Mental*Health*Tip*
Dave You Should Honest Try To Learn To Know, Respect
and Love Your Fellow American US Citizens : NOT HATE
Them For Holding Views and Opinions Different From You.
-i-will-pray-for-a-healing-in-you-life-dave-amen~rhf-
.
- If all you listen to in a day is Limbaugh, Hannity,
- Levin, and Savage,

'Special-Dave' : Preaching Hate for Limbaugh; and
It Is You Who Is Creating a Toxic Culture of Hate.
-you-are-suffering-from-limbaugh-psychosis-

'Special-Dave' : Preaching Hate for Hannity; and
It Is You Who Is Creating a Toxic Culture of Hate.
-you-are-suffering-from-hannity-psychosis-

'Special-Dave' : Preaching Hate for Levin; and
It Is You Who Is Creating a Toxic Culture of Hate.
-you-are-suffering-from-levin-psychosis-

'Special-Dave' : Preaching Hate for Savage; and
It Is You Who Is Creating a Toxic Culture of Hate.
-you-are-suffering-from-savage-psychosis-

- you are psychotic.

'Special-Dave' : That You Are : THAT YOU ARE !
-and-a-hate-mongering-hatemonger-too-
.
- Either strengthen the gun laws

'Special-Dave' : Idiot's-R-Us -says-
Real "Gun Control" Starts-By Simply Enforcing
The Gun Laws On-the-Books [.]
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/c3685b78d1270e5e

'Special-Dave' : Gun Crime Reduction = Simply Do Two Things :
1st - Enforce Existing Criminal Laws : Lock-Em-Up !
2nd - Enforce Existing Gun Laws : Lock-Em-Up !
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/1aee782d27e58e97
.
- or bring back diversity of opinion on the public airwaves.

'Special-Dave' :
* Just Change The Channel Each and Every Hour
One Hour of NPR -balanced-by- One Hour of AM Talk
-oops-yes-it-is-that-simple-
* Just 'Choose' Not To Listen {Listen Responsible}
-oops-yes-it-is-that-simple-

Making National Public Radio [NPR] Accountable
To All The People : Not Just A 'Liberal' Bullhorn !
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/c9f991a128bef242
.
Bring Down The National Public Radio [NPR]
Liberal-Progressive 'Elitist' Oligarchy
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/b52bee8d17d0b5f6
.
The New 112th US Congress of January 2011
Needs to Have Public Hearings {Investigate}
on the NPR Total Liberal-Progressive Bias
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/2fdebbf3afadacbb
.
.
Known Facts -Not- Opinions
-About- "Jared Lee Loughner" The AZ Shooter
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/fcb15c3503f2482d
.
The AZ Shooting : ? Why Not First Think of The
Innocent Victims of This Crime !
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/91e4864cd52cfcb7
.
The AZ Shooting Was One Insane Act of Violence [.]
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/11a60dff3d8d03f2
{The 'Why' Of It & Affixing The Blame}
BLAME A SOCIETY THAT DID NOT HELP HIM
Understand That The Root-Cause Is Not Political
The Root-Cause Is Mental Health and Public Safety
.
.
dave
2011-01-11 16:56:03 UTC
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Post by RHF
.
- If you live in a sane place like Los Angeles,
'Special-Dave' : Now "Sane Place" Is Most Debatable.
-is-any-metro-complex-a-sane-place-
.
- with opposing viewpoints fairly represented in the media,
'Special-Dave' : Now "Fairly" Is Most Debatable.
-is-any-metro-complex-a-fair-place-
.
Yes. Compared to all of Texas and Arizona (except a couple neighborhoods
here and there) Los Angeles is very sane. We know the president was born
in Hawaii and is more right wing than Clinton and to call him a
socialist should be wishful thinking, not a put-down.
RHF
2011-01-12 12:06:17 UTC
Permalink
Post by RHF
  .
- If you live in a sane place like Los Angeles,
'Special-Dave' : Now "Sane Place" Is Most Debatable.
-is-any-metro-complex-a-sane-place-
  .
- with opposing viewpoints fairly represented in the media,
- - 'Special-Dave' : Now "Fairly" Is Most Debatable.
- - -is-any-metro-complex-a-fair-place-

- Yes. Compared to all of Texas and Arizona
- (except a couple neighborhoods here and there)
- Los Angeles is very sane.

'Special-Dave' : Define "Sane"
=FYI= Your Many 'Way-Way-Out' Posts
Here {RRS} Clearly Indicate You Lack It.
.
- We know the president was born in Hawaii
.
The People in Texas and Arizona Know that...
-but- they like to Clown BHO for claiming to have
the most open Administration; and then Sealing
{Privatizing} His Original Birth Certificate; His
School Records; His College Records; and most
other 'official' Public Documents -so-so-so-
a clowning 'bo',,, blaming prez 'bo' {obama} ...
A Clowning "Bo"... Blaming Prez "Bo" {Obama}...
A CLOWNING "BO" ! ! ! BLAMING PREZ "BO" {OBAMA} ! ! !
-it's-'bo'-we-go-and-go-and-go- ;;-}}
.
- and is more right wing than Clinton
.
Some/Many/Most may choose to Love or Hate
the 'Politics' of Prez "BO" {Obama}
...or... Simply IGNORE "BO" {Obama Who?}
and get on with their daily lives . . .
-wrt- Prez "BO" {Obama} I Think He Stinks ! ;;-}}
Hey "BO" You're Doing A Stinking Job ! ;;-}}
.
Clinton had more Showmanship than "BO" do...
-butt-again- Some/Many/Most may have chosen to
Love or Hate the Politics of Prez Clinton
...or... Simply IGNORE "Willy" {Bill Who?}
and get on with their daily lives . . .
.
A Clowning "BO"... Blaming Prez "BO" {Obama}
For His Politics : The 'Right' To Disagree With
Our Elected Leaders and 'Clown' Them :-}
.
- and to call him a socialist should be
- wishful thinking, not a put-down.
.
You Call It Toe-May-Toe
-and- I Call It : Two-Mah-Toes
-hey- You Got-To Call It 'Som-Thin'
-so- You Call "BHO" President Obama
-while- I Can Call "B[H]O" Prez "BO"
FREDOM OF SPEECH -aka- Political Comedy :o)
.
Liberal & Socialist & Progressive & Communist & Fascist
It's All RHETORICAL NAME CALLING ! {I Do It A Lot}
* Slap a Label on 'something' and Yell It's Name Loud !
-rant-on--rant-on--rant-on--rant-on-and-on-and-on-
.
Lets All Clown "BO" by Calling B[H]O*
* The "H" is Silent ;;-}} -very-british-
-no-one-is-supposed-to-say- 'Hussein'
-cause- Saying 'Hussein' implies Muslim/Arabic}
-wrt- Barack [Hussein] Obama II {Jr.}
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama
.
So now just use plain old "BO" or Prez "BO"
-oops- "BO" usually stands for Body Oder ! ;;-}}
-rotfl- Who Let The "BO" Out ? Who! Who! =Pew!=
.
Let The Year 2011 Be The Year of "BO" ! =Pew!=
-proclaimed-by- RHF©***
.
*** © This is another Copy-Righted 'Brain Fart' of RHF
-wrt- 'Brain Fart' -yeah- This Idea(s) Stinks -pew(pu)-
.
Clowning "BO"... Blaming Prez "BO" {Obama}
For His Politics : The 'Right' To Disagree With
Our Elected Leaders and 'Clown' Them :-}
Good Old All American Freedom of Speech -amen-
.
There you goes again 'Special-Dave' using your
Royal "We" {Elitism} and How All You "We"s in
Los Angeles are oh-so-superior-to all those lessor
non-"We"s in Texas and Arizona.
.
'special-dave' - we-on, we-on, we-on,
wee-wee-on-and-on ~ RHF
.
Baracking© Clowning "BO" don't use Obama us "BO"
Baracking© Prez "BO" don't use Obama us "BO"
Baracking© Prez-A-Duntz "BO" don't use Obama us "BO"
Baracking© President "BO" don't use Obama us "BO"
-wrt-Prez Bush [GWB] being called "Shrub" "Dubya" "W" "Bushit"
http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/images/blbushaka.htm
.
The Baracking© of Prez Obama and the Obama-Regime©
has begun : Bring-on the Ugly Dogs of Fear and Hate !
-wrt- Baracking© - Shouting the Liberal Democrat Left's
Hateful and Divisive Rhetoric* Back-In-Their-Face
* Rules for Radicals in the Hands of Conservatives
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rules_for_Radicals
Baracking© = Obama-Bashing© = Blaming Prez Obama !
.
.
RHF
2011-01-12 13:20:07 UTC
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Post by RHF
Post by RHF
  .
- If you live in a sane place like Los Angeles,
'Special-Dave' : Now "Sane Place" Is Most Debatable.
-is-any-metro-complex-a-sane-place-
  .
- with opposing viewpoints fairly represented in the media,
- - 'Special-Dave' : Now "Fairly" Is Most Debatable.
- -  -is-any-metro-complex-a-fair-place-
- Yes. Compared to all of Texas and Arizona
- (except a couple neighborhoods here and there)
- Los Angeles is very sane.
'Special-Dave' : Define "Sane"
=FYI= Your Many 'Way-Way-Out' Posts
Here {RRS} Clearly Indicate You Lack It.
 .
- We know the president was born in Hawaii
 .
The People in Texas and Arizona Know that...
-but- they like to Clown BHO for claiming to have
the most open Administration; and then Sealing
{Privatizing} His Original Birth Certificate; His
School Records; His College Records; and most
other 'official' Public Documents -so-so-so-
a clowning 'bo',,, blaming prez 'bo' {obama} ...
A Clowning "Bo"... Blaming Prez "Bo" {Obama}...
A CLOWNING "BO" ! ! ! BLAMING PREZ "BO" {OBAMA} ! ! !
-it's-'bo'-we-go-and-go-and-go- ;;-}}
 .
- and is more right wing than Clinton
 .
Some/Many/Most may choose to Love or Hate
the 'Politics' of Prez "BO" {Obama}
...or... Simply IGNORE "BO" {Obama Who?}
and get on with their daily lives . . .
-wrt- Prez "BO" {Obama} I Think He Stinks ! ;;-}}
Hey "BO" You're Doing A Stinking Job ! ;;-}}
 .
Clinton had more Showmanship than "BO" do...
-butt-again- Some/Many/Most may have chosen to
Love or Hate the Politics of Prez Clinton
...or... Simply IGNORE "Willy" {Bill Who?}
and get on with their daily lives . . .
 .
A Clowning "BO"... Blaming Prez "BO" {Obama}
For His Politics : The 'Right' To Disagree With
Our Elected Leaders and 'Clown' Them :-}
 .
- and to call him a socialist should be
- wishful thinking, not a put-down.
 .
You Call It Toe-May-Toe
-and- I Call It : Two-Mah-Toes
-hey- You Got-To Call It 'Som-Thin'
-so- You Call "BHO" President Obama
-while- I Can Call "B[H]O" Prez "BO"
FREDOM OF SPEECH -aka- Political Comedy :o)
 .
Liberal & Socialist & Progressive & Communist & Fascist
It's All RHETORICAL NAME CALLING ! {I Do It A Lot}
* Slap a Label on 'something' and Yell It's Name Loud !
-rant-on--rant-on--rant-on--rant-on-and-on-and-on-
 .
Lets All Clown "BO" by Calling B[H]O*
* The "H" is Silent ;;-}} -very-british-
-no-one-is-supposed-to-say- 'Hussein'
-cause- Saying 'Hussein' implies Muslim/Arabic}
-wrt- Barack [Hussein] Obama II {Jr.}http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama
 .
So now just use plain old "BO" or Prez "BO"
-oops- "BO" usually stands for Body Oder ! ;;-}}
-rotfl- Who Let The "BO" Out ? Who! Who! =Pew!=
 .
Let The Year 2011 Be The Year of "BO" ! =Pew!=
-proclaimed-by- RHF©***
 .
*** © This is another Copy-Righted 'Brain Fart' of RHF
-wrt- 'Brain Fart' -yeah- This Idea(s) Stinks -pew(pu)-
 .
Clowning "BO"... Blaming Prez "BO" {Obama}
For His Politics : The 'Right' To Disagree With
Our Elected Leaders and 'Clown' Them :-}
Good Old All American Freedom of Speech -amen-
 .
There you goes again 'Special-Dave' using your
Royal "We" {Elitism} and How All You "We"s in
Los Angeles are oh-so-superior-to all those lessor
non-"We"s in Texas and Arizona.
 .
'special-dave' - we-on, we-on, we-on,
wee-wee-on-and-on ~ RHF
 .
Baracking© Clowning "BO" don't use Obama us "BO"
Baracking© Prez "BO" don't use Obama us "BO"
Baracking© Prez-A-Duntz "BO" don't use Obama us "BO"
Baracking© President "BO" don't use Obama us "BO"
-wrt-Prez Bush [GWB] being called "Shrub" "Dubya" "W" "Bushit"http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/images/blbushaka.htm
 .
The Baracking© of Prez Obama and the Obama-Regime©
has begun : Bring-on the Ugly Dogs of Fear and Hate !
-wrt- Baracking© - Shouting the Liberal Democrat Left's
Hateful and Divisive Rhetoric* Back-In-Their-Face
* Rules for Radicals in the Hands of Conservativeshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rules_for_Radicals
Baracking© = Obama-Bashing© = Blaming Prez Obama !
 .
 .
Oops -correction- "Odor" -v- Oder
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_odor

Clowning "BO"-wrt- Blaming Prez "BO"...
Who Let The "BO" Out? Who! Who! ©
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/fea00130443e55ff
* Re-Branding 'Obama' -to- "BO"
* 'Prez Obama' -is-now- Prez "BO"
-oops- "BO" usually stands for Body Odor ! ;;-}}
-rotfl- Who Let The "BO" Out ? Who! Who! =Pew!=
.
.
RHF
2011-01-11 11:45:21 UTC
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On Jan 10, 6:30 am, dave <***@dave.dave> wrote:

- - On 01/10/2011 05:28 AM, RHF wrote:
- - Another Inconvenient Truth of Sorts : Lunatic For Sure [.]
- - The Shooter Was A CRAZY* LUNATIC* WACKO* MANIAC*
- - * -emphasis-on-all-four-capitalized-words-

- Just like Sirhan and Lee Oswald and Artie Bremer
- and Chapman and Jack Ruby and James Earl Ray
- and so on.

-and- Add the Name of : "Jared Lee Loughner"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jared_Lee_Loughner
? Some Say He Is Just Plain 'Crazy' !
? Some Have the 'Crazy' Idea He Did Not Act Alone !
-remember- The "Crazies" Are Among Us !
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jared_Lee_Loughner#Views
-fact-is- THERE BE CRAZIES ! {Mirror Anyone ? :-}
.
- All "lone nuts" without visible means of support
- who end up in the right state of mind at the right
- place with the right weapons to do maximum
- damage to someone who threatens a corporate
- goal or represents an ideal that threatens the
- existing power structure.

'Special-Dave',
How Did Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords
? Threatens a Corporate Goal ?
Please Proved Facts -not- Fiction
-or- Are You Just Creating HATE !

'Special-Dave',
How Did Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords
? Threatens the Existing Power Structure ?
Please Proved Facts -not- Fiction
-or- Are You Just Creating HATE !

'Special-Dave',
? What Is Sarah Palin's Active Participation in the
Shooting of Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords ?
Please Proved Facts -not- Fiction
-or- Are You Just Creating HATE !

'Special-Dave',
? What Is Dick Armey's Active Participation in the
Shooting of Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords ?
Please Proved Facts -not- Fiction
-or- Are You Just Creating HATE !

'Special-Dave',
? What Is FOX News' Active Participation in the
Shooting of Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords ?
Please Proved Facts -not- Fiction
-or- Are You Just Creating HATE !

'Special-Dave' instead of Agitating, Creating Hate,
and attempting to Incite-to-Violence Against Your
Perceived Enemies . . .
{ Enemies of "The-State" of 'Special-Dave' }
? Why Not First Think of The Innocent Victims of This Crime !

=FIRST=A=FEW=MOMENTS=OF=PRAYER=

* Let Us All Pray for the Best Possible Recovery
for Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords
-and- God's Comfort, Mercy and Blessing to her
Family, Friends and Staff - Amen ~ RHF

* Let Us All Pray for the Best Possible Recovery
for All Those Who Were Injured
-and- God's Comfort, Mercy and Blessing to Their
Families and Many Friends - Amen ~ RHF

* Let Us All Pray for All Dead; Their Souls and
Their Acceptance Into Heaven and Eternal Rest
-and- God's Comfort, Mercy and Blessing to Their
Families and Many Friends on the Lost of Their
Loved Ones - Amen ~ RHF
.
.
The AZ Shooting Was One Insane Act of Violence [.]
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/11a60dff3d8d03f2
{The 'Why' Of It & Affixing The Blame}
BLAME A SOCIETY THAT DID NOT HELP HIM
Understand That The Root-Cause Is Not Political
The Root-Cause Is Mental Health and Public Safety
.
Talking About "The AZ Shooting" Right Now on
'The Power Hour' Radio Show -with-host- Joyce Riley
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/11fe70fe78f346bc
George Freund host of The "Conspiracy Cafe"
from Canada Talking About "The AZ Shooting" Too !
-via- WWCR Shortwave Radio 7,490 kHz
and 13,845 kHz @ 1300 UTC
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/c5a035d8aa7c380d
.
Left-Wing Liberal-Democrats : Using The Shooting of
Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords To Incite Violence
Against "Right-Wing Demagogues" !
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/32664340f7a712fa
=WRT= The AZ Shooter Society's Failures Were
Not Political : They Were In The Public Schools;
Public Health Care; and Public Safety.
.
Left-Wing Liberal-Democrats : Using The Shooting of
Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords To Incite Violence
Against Sarah Palin !
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/cd9ae9aa17f4318c
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/89b47e0bc2b8c27c
"The Shooter" Had The Insane 'Urge' To Take
{Act-Out} His Perceived Vengeance :
* On Society as a Whole {The Crowd of People}
* Society's Leaders {The Local Congressperson}.
.
.
dave
2011-01-11 13:11:51 UTC
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Post by RHF
- - Another Inconvenient Truth of Sorts : Lunatic For Sure [.]
- - The Shooter Was A CRAZY* LUNATIC* WACKO* MANIAC*
- - * -emphasis-on-all-four-capitalized-words-
- Just like Sirhan and Lee Oswald and Artie Bremer
- and Chapman and Jack Ruby and James Earl Ray
- and so on.
-and- Add the Name of : "Jared Lee Loughner"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jared_Lee_Loughner
? Some Say He Is Just Plain 'Crazy' !
? Some Have the 'Crazy' Idea He Did Not Act Alone !
.
The AZ Shooting Was One Insane Act of Violence [.]
.
Left-Wing Liberal-Democrats : Using The Shooting of
Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords To Incite Violence
Against Sarah Palin !
Nothing happens in a vacuum. This guy was crazy for years, something put
him over the edge last fall. He went from "Alice in Wonderland" to "Full
Metal Jacket" in whiplash inducing time. What was the catalyst?

To imply this guy didn't listen to the radio is disingenuous; 'Dwardo
says we all listen to the radio. The world is full of crazy people
(Reagan stopped treatment for the mentally ill, preferring to treat them
with powerful meds which homeless people can't afford) that do not buy
Glock 19s with 30 rd clip extenders to take to a town meeting.
Joe from Kokomo
2011-01-11 13:29:31 UTC
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Post by dave
Nothing happens in a vacuum. This guy was crazy for years, something put
him over the edge last fall. He went from "Alice in Wonderland" to "Full
Metal Jacket" in whiplash inducing time. What was the catalyst?
Well, he may -not- have been "crazy for years". By all current accounts,
he was more or less "normal" -- good student, good grades, participated
in extracurricular activities like band.

Then he got on drugs and everything seemed to go down hill from there.

So maybe drugs is the answer to your "catalyst" question.
dave
2011-01-11 16:50:33 UTC
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Post by Joe from Kokomo
Post by dave
Nothing happens in a vacuum. This guy was crazy for years, something put
him over the edge last fall. He went from "Alice in Wonderland" to "Full
Metal Jacket" in whiplash inducing time. What was the catalyst?
Well, he may -not- have been "crazy for years". By all current accounts,
he was more or less "normal" -- good student, good grades, participated
in extracurricular activities like band.
Then he got on drugs and everything seemed to go down hill from there.
So maybe drugs is the answer to your "catalyst" question.
One out of 3 people his age use drugs, I don't think that's it (although
if you are psychotic they don't help). I think we are all to blame.
People like this shouldn't fall through the cracks in an allegedly
civilized society.

However, the "caustic" media atmosphere is the same as otherwise
innocuous pot smoke to the troubled mind; it doesn't help.
Joe from Kokomo
2011-01-11 20:47:06 UTC
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Post by Joe from Kokomo
Post by dave
Nothing happens in a vacuum. This guy was crazy for years,
something put him over the edge last fall. He went from "Alice in
Wonderland" to "Full Metal Jacket" in whiplash inducing time.
What was the catalyst?
Well, he may -not- have been "crazy for years". By all current
accounts, he was more or less "normal" -- good student, good
grades, participated in extracurricular activities like band.
Then he got on drugs and everything seemed to go down hill from there.
So maybe drugs is the answer to your "catalyst" question.
One out of 3 people his age use drugs...
THAT doesn't say too much for our country in my book.
...I don't think that's it (although if you are psychotic they don't
help).
You just don't know that. Some "designer" drugs can cause organic
changes in the brain; witness "The Addict Who Froze" (or similar name)
on PBS several years ago. (a botched batch of a 'designer' drug killed a
certain type of brain cell, inducing a severe, incurable case of
Parkinson's in the "lucky" drug user).

1) He [Loughner] appeared to be a relatively clean-cut kid.
2) He started taking drugs.
3) Everything (grades, friends, social interactions, etc) went to hell
right after that.

Coincidence? NOT!
dave
2011-01-11 21:15:15 UTC
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Post by Joe from Kokomo
You just don't know that. Some "designer" drugs can cause organic
changes in the brain; witness "The Addict Who Froze" (or similar name)
on PBS several years ago. (a botched batch of a 'designer' drug killed a
certain type of brain cell, inducing a severe, incurable case of
Parkinson's in the "lucky" drug user).
1) He [Loughner] appeared to be a relatively clean-cut kid.
2) He started taking drugs.
3) Everything (grades, friends, social interactions, etc) went to hell
right after that.
Coincidence? NOT!
Fentanyl. That bad batch of Fentanyl led to some very important
neurological discoveries. Fentanyl is in the domain of the junkie.

Hippie drugs don't do that to people. How do you know when young Jared
started taking drugs?
Joe from Kokomo
2011-01-11 23:46:39 UTC
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Post by dave
Post by Joe from Kokomo
You just don't know that. Some "designer" drugs can cause organic
changes in the brain; witness "The Addict Who Froze" (or similar
name) on PBS several years ago. (a botched batch of a 'designer'
drug killed a certain type of brain cell, inducing a severe,
incurable case of Parkinson's in the "lucky" drug user).
1) He [Loughner] appeared to be a relatively clean-cut kid. 2) He
started taking drugs. 3) Everything (grades, friends, social
interactions, etc) went to hell right after that.
Coincidence? NOT!
Fentanyl. That bad batch of Fentanyl led to some very important
neurological discoveries. Fentanyl is in the domain of the junkie.
Well, that's putting sort of a fine point on it. Who knows what drugs
Loughner was taking? I don't know. YOU don't know.
Post by dave
Hippie drugs don't do that to people.
a) You don't have a clue what drugs Loughner was taking, "hippie" or
otherwise.
b) Whatever he was taking, how do you know it wasn't contaminated,
adulterated or chemically botched up?
Post by dave
How do you know when young Jared started taking drugs?
From all the media reporting. He started out high school with good
grades, friends, extracurricular activities. So, according to his peers
and former friends, it would seem to be in Junior or Senior year of H.S.
that he experienced a major (down hill) change in his life style.
dave
2011-01-10 14:23:33 UTC
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Post by D. Peter Maus
I see everyone here is following their marching orders from Judson
Phillips, founder of the Tea Party Nation.
Phillips has sent out mass emails urging the Tea Party supporters to
blame liberals for the attack.
"The hard left is going to try and silence the Tea Party movement by
blaming us for this. Clinton used the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing to
"blame conservative talk radio, especially Rush Limbaugh" and The
tactic worked then, backing conservatives off and possibly helping to
ensure a second Clinton term. The left is coming and will hit us hard
on this. We need to push back harder with the simple truth. The
shooter was a liberal lunatic. Emphasis on both words."
And the facts have proven him correct.
Liberals don't rant about the gold standard and immigrants.

After seeing this creepy teacher from Pima College I'm thinking he has a
lot to do with the overall craziness in Mr. Loughner's world. That
teacher is a freak.
RHF
2011-01-11 12:55:27 UTC
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I see everyone here is following their marching orders from Judson
Phillips, founder of the Tea Party Nation.
Phillips has sent out mass emails urging the Tea Party supporters to
blame liberals for the attack.
"The hard left is going to try and silence the Tea Party movement by
blaming us for this. Clinton used the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing to
"blame conservative talk radio, especially Rush Limbaugh" and The
tactic worked then, backing conservatives off and possibly helping to
ensure a second Clinton term. The left is coming and will hit us hard
on this. We need to push back harder with the simple truth.
- - - The shooter was a liberal lunatic.
- - - Emphasis on both words."

- - And the facts have proven him correct.

- Liberals don't rant about the gold standard and immigrants.

'Special-Dave' : Clearly Some Totally Mixed-Up Crazy's Do.

"The Shooter" Was A CRAZY* LUNATIC* WACKO* MANIAC*
* -emphasis-on-all-four-capitalized-words- IMHO ~ RHF
The Only Difference Between : Nuts -and- CRAZY !
= One-Insane-Act-of-Violence {Separates Them} =
.
- After seeing this creepy teacher from Pima College
- I'm thinking he has a lot to do with the overall craziness
- in Mr. Loughner's world.

'Special-Dave' : So Now You Place 'The Shooter'
In The Zone of "Overall Craziness"

"The Shooter" Was A CRAZY* LUNATIC* WACKO* MANIAC*
* -emphasis-on-all-four-capitalized-words- IMHO ~ RHF
The Only Difference Between : Nuts -and- CRAZY !
= One-Insane-Act-of-Violence {Separates Them} =
.
- That teacher is a freak.

'Special-Dave' : That's Your Opinion -not-a- Fact.

'Special-Dave' : -wrt- Liberals don't read
and recommend Mein Kampf

'Special-Dave' Have You Read "Mein Kampf"
-if-not-:-how-can-you-have-an-opinion-about-it-?-

'Special-Dave' Have You Quoted/Referred To "Mein Kampf"
-without-reading-it-!-

Known Facts -Not- Opinions -About- "Jared Lee Loughner"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jared_Lee_Loughner
-aka- "The AZ Shooter"
? Some Say He Is Just Plain 'Crazy' !
? Some Have the 'Crazy' Idea He Did Not Act Alone !
-remember- The "Crazies" Are Among Us !
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jared_Lee_Loughner#Views
-fact-is- THERE BE CRAZIES ! {Mirror Anyone ? :-}

* Believer of Numerous Conspiracy Theories

* There Will Be a 2012 Apocalypse

* Government Was Using Mind Control to Brainwash People

* Identified as an Atheist and was Critical of Religion

* Compared a Young Woman to a Terrorist after
she read a Poem about Getting an Abortion

* Exhibited a Long Standing Dislike for Gabrielle Giffords

* Registered to Vote as an Independent

* Listed 21 Favorite Books included :
Mein Kampf, Fahrenheit 451, Plato's Republic
and The Communist Manifesto
-note- I {Myself} Read Them All back in the 1960s
and Have Quoted Them All. -who-hasn't-?-

* Don't Accept the 'Federalist' Laws {Big Brother}

* Return to the Gold-Silver Standard

* Accused the Government of Mind-Controlling
and Brainwashing the Citizenry {Again}

* Keep to Himself and Not Respond to Others

* He got Alcohol Poisoning and Dropped-Out of School

* Fired from his Job at a Sandwich Shop

* Volunteered at a local Animal Shelter
& Asked Not to Return

* Resistant to that Information

* Had Five (5) Contacts {Run-Ins} with Pima Community
College Police for Classroom and Library Disruptions
-warning-sign--warning-sign--warning-sign--warning-sign-
* * Directed to Resolve his Code of Conduct Violations
* * Obtain a Mental Health Clearance
* * Indicating, in the Opinion of a Mental Health Professional
* * His Presence Did Not Constitute a Danger to Himself or Others
* * A College Teacher & Classmate both said they
thought Loughner might Commit a School Shooting.
* *He Withdraw from the College
-read- The Schools Failed Him.
-read- The Health System Failed Him.
-read- The Police Failed Him.

* Had Two (2) Previous Local Police Offenses
* * Possession of Drug Paraphernalia
* * Defacing a Street Sign

* U.S. Army Confirmed Rejected as "Unqualified"
from Military Service Due to Marijuana Use

* State has No Record of Him Seeking Mental Health
Treatment in the Public System

All Those are some of the 'known' Facts at this time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jared_Lee_Loughner
I am sure we will learn more from Updates and
'Corrections' as Facts are Checked and Verified. ~ RHF
.
.
The AZ Shooting : ? Why Not First Think of The
Innocent Victims of This Crime !
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/91e4864cd52cfcb7
.
The AZ Shooting Was One Insane Act of Violence [.]
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/11a60dff3d8d03f2
{The 'Why' Of It & Affixing The Blame}
BLAME A SOCIETY THAT DID NOT HELP HIM
Understand That The Root-Cause Is Not Political
The Root-Cause Is Mental Health and Public Safety
.
Talking About "The AZ Shooting" Right Now on
'The Power Hour' Radio Show -with- Joyce Riley
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/11fe70fe78f346bc
George Freund host of The "Conspiracy Cafe"
from Canada Talking About "The AZ Shooting" Too !
-via- WWCR Shortwave Radio 7,490 kHz
and 13,845 kHz @ 1300 UTC
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/c5a035d8aa7c380d
.
Left-Wing Liberal-Democrats : Using The Shooting of
Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords To Incite Violence
Against "Right-Wing Demagogues" !
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/32664340f7a712fa
=WRT= The AZ Shooter Society's Failures Were
Not Political : They Were In The Public Schools;
Public Health Care; and Public Safety.
.
Left-Wing Liberal-Democrats : Using The Shooting of
Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords To Incite Violence
Against Sarah Palin !
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/cd9ae9aa17f4318c
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/89b47e0bc2b8c27c
"The Shooter" Had The Insane 'Urge' To Take
{Act-Out} His Perceived Vengeance :
* On Society as a Whole {The Crowd of People}
* Society's Leaders {The Local Congressperson}.
.
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dave
2011-01-11 13:29:39 UTC
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http://www.multichannel.com/article/462119-CES_Genachowski_More_TV_Spectrum_Could_Be_Reclaimed_Within_Two_Years.php

AT&T and Verizon deserve airwaves more than you do. This is a power
gram. There is tons of unused spectrum. Genachowski must be collared.

"Las Vegas — Federal Communications Commission chairman Julius
Genachowski reiterated his position that the U.S. faces a "spectrum
crunch" and said that if the agency gets the Congressional go-ahead it
could reclaim wireless spectrum from TV broadcasters and auction it
within two years.

Genachowski, in a speech at the Consumer Electronics Show here Friday,
said mobile broadband was critical to fueling the country's economic
growth and keeping it globally competitive.

"The consumer electronics industry is going wireless... We need to free
up more spectrum," Genachowski said. "Unleashing mobile spectrum is at
the top of the FCC's 2011 agenda."

He added, "We could be in a position, if Congress acts, to auction this
spectrum in the next year or two and get that on the market... Every day
we have a delay we'll have a cost to the U.S. in terms of our global
competitiveness."

He called wireless spectrum "the oxygen that sustains our mobile
devices," adding, "This invisible infrastructure is the backbone of a
growing percentage of our economy and our lives."
-multichannel
RHF
2011-01-10 13:14:14 UTC
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On Jan 10, 2:08 am, Gary <***@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

First : Let Us All Pray for the Best Possible Recovery
for Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords
-and- God's Comfort, Mercy and Blessing to her
Family, Friends and Staff - Amen ~ RHF

Second : Let Us All Pray for the Best Possible Recovery
for All Those Who Were Injured
-and- God's Comfort, Mercy and Blessing to Their
Families and Many Friends - Amen ~ RHF

Third : Let Us All Pray for All Dead; Their Souls
and Their Acceptance Into Heaven and Eternal Rest
-and- God's Comfort, Mercy and Blessing to Their
Families and Many Friends on the Lost of Thier
Loved Ones - Amen ~ RHF

- I see everyone here is following their marching orders
- from Judson Phillips, founder of the Tea Party Nation.

Just looked him up at : http://www.teapartynation.com/

- Phillips has sent out mass emails urging the Tea Party
- supporters to blame liberals for the attack.

OK Found It : Tea Party Nation Founder:
Arizona Shooter 'A Liberal Lunatic'
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/09/tea-party-nation-founder-_n_806489.html

A Message from Judson Phillips : Tea Party Nation
http://radiopatriot.wordpress.com/2011/01/10/a-message-from-judson-phillips-tea-party-nation/

-but- Markos Moulitsas [Daily Kos] is now Orchestrating
http://www.dailykos.com/
The-Blame-Game Against "Right-Wing Demagogues"
of Anger/Hate/Aggression/Violence for The Liberal Cause
http://www.talk2action.org/story/2011/1/9/102043/1779/Front_Page/The_Becking_of_Rep_Gabrielle_Giffords
-and- The Left-Wing Political Cadre wearing their Black
Balaclavas; Backpacks and Jack-Boots :
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* Aimed-At-and-Specifically Targeting Sarah Palin !
Hey Markos Will You Rejoice Bathing In Sarah's Blood ?
* Aimed-At-and-Specifically Targeting Glen Beck !
Hey Markos Will You Rejoice Bathing In Glenn's Blood ?
* Aimed-At-and-Specifically Targeting Ann Coulter !
Hey Markos Will You Rejoice Bathing In Ann's Blood ?
* Aimed-At-and-Specifically Targeting Bill O’Reilly !
Hey Markos Will You Rejoice Bathing In Bill's Blood ?
* Aimed-At-and-Specifically Targeting Rush Limbaugh !
Hey Markos Will You Rejoice Bathing In Rush's Blood ?

HEY Markos Moulitsas : What Happens When Your
Left-Wing 'Liberal' Friends Turn On You ?

And Now I Know -oops- Here I Am Saying Blame NO One.
-except- THE ONE LONE CRAZY SHOOTER
-cause- Crazy Can Be Crazy All On It's Own [.]
-wrt- There Ain't No Left-of-C\R\A\Z\Y !
-and- There Ain't No Right-of-C/R/A/Z/Y !
THERE IS JUST C*R*A*Z*Y [.] 100% Pure Crazy.

- "The hard left is going to try and silence the Tea Party movement by
- blaming us for this. Clinton used the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing to
- "blame conservative talk radio, especially Rush Limbaugh" and The
- tactic worked then, backing conservatives off and possibly helping
to
- ensure a second Clinton term. The left is coming and will hit us
hard
- on this. We need to push back harder with the simple truth.

HEY Judson Phillips : What Happens When Your
Right-Wing 'Conservative' Friends Turn On You Too ?

- The shooter was a liberal lunatic.
- Emphasis on both words."

OK The Shooter Was A CRAZY LUNATIC WACKO MANIAC
-emphasis-on-all-four-capitalized-words-

Yes Clearly The Shooter Had Some CRAZY EXTREME
Right-Wing 'Conservative' {Republican} Ideas/Isms
-rolling-a-round-in-his-messed-up-brain-

Yes Clearly The Shooter Had Some CRAZY EXTREME
Left-Wing 'Liberal' {Democrat} Ideas/Isms
-rolling-a-round-in-his-messed-up-brain-

MEDICAL CHECK-UP ASAP ON THE SHOOTER
Do A Full 'Brain Scan' -cause- Maybe This Crazy
Is Caused By A "Tumor" a/o Brain-Damage :
A Real Physical Illness -not- a Mental Illness.
-now-wouldn't-that-explain-a-lot-

-but- The Shooter was only One of 650K Citizens
Living in the 8th AZ Congress District : So Do We
Condemn All The Citizens of that District -for-
? Right-Wing 'Conservative' {Republican} Ideas/Isms !
? Left-Wing 'Liberal' {Democrat} Ideas/Isms !
? Being CRAZY & EXTREME !
No No No = 650K Times NO* !
* Think-About-It : 1 in 650K is 0.00015%
-So- Do We Allow that Micro Percentage To Define
Freedom of Speech and the Political Discourse in
the USA ? -again-no-no-no-

-but- The Shooter was may be One of 180K Voters
in the 2010 8th AZ Congress District Election : So
Do We Condemn All The Voters of that District -for-
? Right-Wing 'Conservative' {Republican} Ideas/Isms !
? Left-Wing 'Liberal' {Democrat} Ideas/Isms !
? Being CRAZY & EXTREME !
No No No = 180K Times NO* !
* Think-About-It : 1 in 180K is 0.00055%
-So- Do We Allow that Mini Percentage To Define
Freedom of Speech and the Political Discourse in
the USA ? -again-no-no-no-

Jared Lee Loughner The AZ Shooter Was/Is A CRAZY [.]
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/4e7001ab3e470009
He Ain't Right-or-Left : He's Just Plain CRAZY [.]
* Don't Blame The Liberals & Don't Blame The Conservatives
* Blame a Society That Did Not Help Him [.]
* Blame a Public School System That Did Not
Identify His Needs [.]
* Blame a Public Health Care System That Did
Not Help Him and Treat His Illness [.]
* Blame a Public Safety {Police} System That
Did Not Help Him and Protect Us From Him [.]
=WRT= The AZ Shooter Society's Failures Were
Not Political : They Were In The Public Schools;
Public Health Care; and Public Safety.
.
Left-Wing Liberal-Democrats : Using The Shooting
of Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords To Incite
Violence Against "Right-Wing Demagogues"
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/cd9ae9aa17f4318c
-like- Sarah Palin Glen Beck, Rush Limbaugh,
Ann Coulter, Bill O’Reilly, FOX News; etc etc etc...
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/89b47e0bc2b8c27c
.
THE POWER HOUR Radio Show
-with-host- Joyce Riley is Talking
http://www.thepowerhour.com/
http://www.gcnlive.com/programs/powerHour/
About the AZ Shooting Right Now @ 1300 UTC
on WWCR Shortwave Radio in Nashville, TN -USA-
http://www.wwcr.com/
-or- To Listen "Live" to GCN On-Line
-via- the Internet [WWW]
http://www.gcnlive.com/mediaPlayers/livePlayer.php
.
It's Time for "The Power Hour" with Joyce Riley
-via- WWCR Shortwave Radio
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/bd719241c5864967
.
.
dave
2011-01-10 14:24:55 UTC
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Post by RHF
.
Left-Wing Liberal-Democrats : Using The Shooting
of Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords To Incite
Violence Against "Right-Wing Demagogues"
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/cd9ae9aa17f4318c
-like- Sarah Palin Glen Beck, Rush Limbaugh,
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