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California Democrat coward signs 'gun violence restraining order' law
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Just Wondering
2021-10-18 23:27:40 UTC
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(Reuters) - People who fear a close relative may commit gun
violence will be able to petition a judge to temporarily remove
the person's firearms in California, under a bill signed into
law on Tuesday by Democratic Governor Jerry Brown.
The legislation - the first such measure in the United States -
was introduced after police near Santa Barbara said they were
unable to confiscate weapons from a man who later went on a
rampage and killed six people, despite concern from his family
he was in poor mental health and might become violent.
I'm sure that if a person is mentally unstable and potentially
violent, having a couple of cops show up on his doorstep with a
no-notice warrant to confiscate his guns will make him more docile.
(For the gun grabbers out there, this is sarcasm.)
Intelligent Party
2021-10-18 23:54:46 UTC
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(Reuters) - People who fear a close relative may commit gun
violence will be able to petition a judge to temporarily remove
the person's firearms in California, under a bill signed into
law on Tuesday by Democratic Governor Jerry Brown.
The legislation - the first such measure in the United States -
was introduced after police near Santa Barbara said they were
unable to confiscate weapons from a man who later went on a
rampage and killed six people, despite concern from his family
he was in poor mental health and might become violent.
Under the so-called gun violence restraining order in the court
system, immediate family members and law enforcement agencies
could ask a judge to order guns temporarily removed from certain
individuals.
The restraining order would last 21 days, and could be extended
up to a year, after a notice and a hearing.
“The new ‘Gun Violence Restraining Order’ law will give families
and law enforcement a needed tool to reduce the risk of mass
shootings and gun violence both in the home and on our streets,”
said Nick and Amanda Wilcox, legislative co-chairs of the
California Chapters of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun
Violence.
The law has wide support from law enforcement agencies and is
based on an existing measure that temporarily blocks people with
domestic violence restraining orders from owning a gun.
"If it can save one life, one family from that agony, it will be
worth it," Democratic state Senator Hannah-Beth Jackson, said
during debate on the measure.
I wonder how many more people killed by cops for the increased confrontation.

Current cop kill rate 3 people per day. 1,000 people per year.

The Constitution says you can't be held without indictment, but no cops ever cared
enough huh?

"No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime,
unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in
the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War
or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice
put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be
a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without
due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without
just compensation."
-The Fifth Amendment to the United States Constitution

"No person shall be held... unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury"

ALL LAWS HANG ON ARREST, ALL ARREST HANGS ON MURDER

criminal laws anyway.

It's not self-defense to arrest people when it's not self-defense. You should all
have nuclear hand grenades. I teach all my soldiers and countrymen, never be
taken alive, and I will acquit anyone who kills a cop in self-defense of arrest!

FLOYD DID IT RIGHT!

EXONERATE THE CAPITOL DEMONSTRATORS!

BLACK LIVES MATTER! POOR LIVES MATTER!

MAKE AMERICA GREAT, IT NEVER WAS!
Several Republican senators spoke against the bill, saying there
were already measures in place to keep guns away from dangerous
and unstable people.
Critics added that the bill infringed on the Second Amendment
right to keep and bear arms.
Brown also signed a bill on Tuesday requiring BB guns and pellet
guns to be brightly colored or otherwise marked so that law
enforcement officers do not mistake them for deadly firearms.
The bill was introduced after a 13-year-old Northern California
boy was shot and killed by a sheriff's deputy while carrying a
pellet gun that looked like an assault weapon.
The law also expanded the definition of a BB gun in California
to include firearms that shoot pellets larger than 6 millimeters.
(This story has been refiled to fixe typographical error in
headline)
(Reporting by Sharon Bernstein; Editing by Peter Cooney)
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/09/30/us-usa-california-gun-
control-idUSKCN0HP2JD20140930
Scout
2021-10-19 14:09:00 UTC
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(Reuters) - People who fear a close relative may commit gun
violence will be able to petition a judge to temporarily remove
the person's firearms in California, under a bill signed into
law on Tuesday by Democratic Governor Jerry Brown.
The legislation - the first such measure in the United States -
was introduced after police near Santa Barbara said they were
unable to confiscate weapons from a man who later went on a
rampage and killed six people, despite concern from his family
he was in poor mental health and might become violent.
And they couldn't seek an involuntary commitment and psychological
evaluation for what reason?

I mean if the man was having such mental issues, that would seem to be
required, since removing some weapons doesn't alter the basic problem.
Under the so-called gun violence restraining order in the court
system, immediate family members and law enforcement agencies
could ask a judge to order guns temporarily removed from certain
individuals.
So it doesn't matter if a crazy person remains free to kill people.. just as
long as he uses a bomb, poison, or anything other than a gun to kill with?

If you have cause to seek to remove their firearms then you have cause to
seek an involuntary commitment and psychological evaluation. Then if your
fears are proven true, you wont have any issues denying him guns, bombs,
poison or any other weapons he could become dangerous with given his mental
condition.

So tell me why we ignore the problem, and just claim if he does kill with
guns then it's all good?
Just Wondering
2021-10-19 15:41:24 UTC
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Post by Scout
(Reuters) - People who fear a close relative may commit gun
violence will be able to petition a judge to temporarily remove
the person's firearms in California, under a bill signed into
law on Tuesday by Democratic Governor Jerry Brown.
The legislation - the first such measure in the United States -
was introduced after police near Santa Barbara said they were
unable to confiscate weapons from a man who later went on a
rampage and killed six people, despite concern from his family
he was in poor mental health and might become violent.
And they couldn't seek an involuntary commitment and psychological
evaluation for what reason?
I mean if the man was having such mental issues, that would seem to be
required, since removing some weapons doesn't alter the basic problem.
Under the so-called gun violence restraining order in the court
system, immediate family members and law enforcement agencies
could ask a judge to order guns temporarily removed from certain
individuals.
So it doesn't matter if a crazy person remains free to kill people..
just as long as he uses a bomb, poison, or anything other than a gun to
kill with?
If you have cause to seek to remove their firearms then you have cause
to seek an involuntary commitment and psychological evaluation. Then if
your fears are proven true, you wont have any issues denying him guns,
bombs, poison or any other weapons he could become dangerous with given
his mental condition.
So tell me why we ignore the problem, and just claim if he does kill
with guns then it's all good?
'Cause this happened in California where the inmates are running the asylum.
max headroom
2021-10-20 05:26:45 UTC
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(Reuters) - People who fear a close relative may commit gun
violence will be able to petition a judge to temporarily remove
the person's firearms in California, under a bill signed into
law on Tuesday by Democratic Governor Jerry Brown.;;;
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/09/30/...
Please don't feed the troll.

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